Proposed new helipad Penrith

[Twistgrip]

https://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/7847023/penrith-helipad-given-green-light-blue-mountains-council-considers-next-move/?cs=11

[godfather007]

Ouch!
Those opposing parties successfully shut down Fly Blue at Katoomba and cost the owner big $ and lots of pain.
Funny how a new international Airport is being built several miles to the south.... I’m sure that won’t be noisy and disturb the glamour of the Blue Mountians.
Fu(ken nimbies.

[JohnJRamboB206]

I love these stories,

We cant even get a helipad up and running in the back blocks and they reckon we will have pilotless drones flying everyone around the city oh wait don't they have to take off and land as well? Won't they make noise?

Crazy times

[godfather007]

Well said Rambo.

They will make noise and they will send pax to their death when the computers glitch, one of four driving blade systems stop turning, one of the many redundant systems fail dramatically... etc..Off topic.. but it all has some legs for another dick show.
Wet dreams for some and Pipe dreams for hungry investors that I can’t see happening in my life span. Thank F()CK

Back on topic, In all truth the BM nimbies are a force to be considered for all pilots and companies flying those areas.
Government back patting is out if our control.
Best of luck to SH.
GF. Over and out.

[Gonsky]

Yep nothing happening at all...........

https://www.onlineev.com/why-helicopter ... -in-depth/

https://www.bloomberg.com/press-release ... l-aircraft

https://evtol.com/features/bringing-aut ... 2-50822406

https://akihabaranews.com/tokyo-launche ... 2-50822406

https://futureflight.aero/news-article/ ... 2-50822406

https://akihabaranews.com/sumitomo-and- ... 2-50822406

https://evtolinsights.com/2022/08/vport ... 2-50822406

https://evtol.com/news/archer-receives- ... 2-50822406

Regards,

[JohnJRamboB206]

Fake news

Hehe

[hoverthrust]

well said Rambo I wonder myself how this instant industry can bypass years of struggle in the heli world.
I have been waiting for the pizza company drone delivery for 10 years now. They also had a robot to deliver, and some teens kicked the sh#$% out of it and stole the pizzas.
Some companies make fake news for their own profits without actually intending to make the real thing.
Some of these are legit and it is interesting that the first taxi drones will have a pilot in it, just to be able to pass certification. Then you know what happens after that.
I asked one of these investor guys how are you going to land all these air taxis when normal safety rich helicopters struggle with local councils and permissions, he said we have a lot of planning lawyers involved. Even the new Sydney airport has no provision to take or land helicopters or drone taxis....

[Gunga Din]

When we were running RPT helicopters into Sydney, we got better treatment than those on charter category, but were still second-class citizens. Despite very early planning (early 90s, before Qantas built the new terminal finger) they flatly refused to put a helipad on their roof, or allow our passengers to be dropped directly into the terminal airside. All pax had to land at the heliport miles away, get into landside transport (we provided) and battle the traffic to get to the terminal for a normal entrance, security, blah blah. The only option they offered was to plop on the ground at a remote spot like the weird airlines do, and usher the pax along the tarmac into the ground level, which is landside, and then into security. But we would have to provide the marshaller and the ushers because their people were only trained on planks and were scared of whirling things.

So, despite Gonsky's clippings, it is highly unlikely that the Department of Obstruction will allow anything unpiloted, or anything else, to land airside at a terminal with pax.

[Hello Pilots]

Judging by the way society is tracking at the moment, it would not surprise if these kinds of things gets ushered through. Some smelly green MP will use the “clean green initiative” to pass it over the line.
We all know how irritating drones can sound, what would a scaled up version be like?

[Gonsky]

Not as irritating as POS Robinsons flying over Sydney Harbor every 10 minutes running essential "joy flights".

You are right on one point they are getting fasted tracked.

Regards,

[FerrariFlyer]

If you feel that the occasional Robinson Helicopter flying over the harbour every 10 minutes doing 'essential' joy flights is an annoyance for the masses, how will 100's plus of small high frequency noise emitting, high RPM engines go all hours of night and day go operating equally 'non-essential' flights over suburbs far and wide?

[Gonsky]

Occasional?

The truly terrifying part is none of the supposed knowledgeable rotary individuals have zero idea of the sound signature of a VTOL's. There is this thing called the internet, try to use it.

So lets cut to the chase, the economics of the industry means very few pilots actually live in areas whereas the pointless joy flighting imbeciles operate. Not sure where you reside yet by the harbor these imbeciles are flying every 10 minutes, 22's, 44's, EC's and the occasional 500. So according to you joy flights are ok yet A to B are not, you just outlined the end of your own industry.

We are not talking about police, ems we are talking about govt subsidized joy flights. Yep definitely essential services.

And you wonder why no one want you guys operating anywhere. Your industry is being destroyed from within through utter lack of knowledge, nothing to do with any other issues.

Regards,

[Gunga Din]

So according to you joy flights are ok yet A to B are not,

Which A and which B, Mr Gonski? And how does the drone get back to its home base unless it goes from B to A? People still need a car to get to the Vertiport at Point A, and park it somewhere. Then travel to Point B vertiport, and another ground transport. Bear in mind that Points A and B won't be very far apart, as the drone has to stay within its battery limits and keep a reserve to get home again - because Point B may not have enough spots available to sit on for 4 hours while recharging - it might need to move away promptly.

My suburb certainly wouldn't need a vertiport, being 10 minutes from the airport.

[cupid stunt]

we are talking about govt subsidized joy flights.

Errr what? Complete and utter tosh. Your Nimbyesq attitude also gives away the type of person you are, notwithstanding your insistence on having the last word and drones putting us all out of a job. You may find a good number of us work at the EMS, Offshore or Law enforcement end of town where it will be a very long time before a drone can do our job. And if YOU don't understand how a mk1 eyeball will find a missing person or dirtbag better than a drone then it is YOU that needs an education.

Either that or just gonsky off to droneslapper, those window lickers will love you

[Gonsky]

Powerful replies, mark 1 eyeball or FLIR is there any point to even respond to that?

Never going to happen has been the default reply for how long now, yet the erosion is ongoing.

Had years and years to prep, no one to blame other than yourselves. 100's of others saw the future and left you behind.

I think the most disgusting point is that there is continual attempts to recruit new blood with zero upside, only to keep the existing head in the sand punters warm at night.

Progress never stops, that is unless you think the world is flat.

Regards,

[cupid stunt]

Mk1 eyeball and FLIR, used both, FLIR will not pick out what doesn't look right or movement that the mk1 1 eyeball connected to a human brain can. FLIR will also not work in low contrast either smartass. In fact we recently found a missing person with the mk1 eyeball that Polair couldn't find with their FLIR and bought him home safe and well after spending all night out in sub-zero temperatures. He was so cold that the FLIR couldn't discern the difference between his freezing cold body and the freezing cold earth surrounding him.

If we're all so beneath you, why do you persist here? It probably shows that you have the real psychological issues really doesn't it?

[Gonsky]

Certainly do, it comes from morons joy flying over the harbor all day.

Essential flying fixed/rotary has no issues with anyone, pointless joy flights need to be banned.

Once a low sound signature VTOL is launched you will see why the red tape will be cut every where for their use.

If you cannot understand that then cannot help you.

Regards,

[Gunga Din]

pointless joy flights need to be banned.

Why are they pointless?

Thousands of pointless people (locals and tourists) have enjoyed their pointless 30-minute gallop around the pointless harbour. It brings pointless revenue into the pointless city, keeps us pointless people employed, and ensure that pointless dickh3ads have got something pointless to complain about.

Even if your beloved pointless drones were totally silent, they will not be landing in back yards to take people to the shops.

[Heli-Ops]

Gonsky - Why are you even here on a heli industry forum when you obviously have such a hatred towards those who fly helicopters and helicopters in general.

If you think drones are going to get free reign because they are quieter then you are living in a fantasy land.

[Gonsky]

No issues with helicopters at all, or pilots that are involved in essential services.

You guys would be pissed if your neighbour fired his whipper sniper up too early yet think you have zero responsibility for pissing off all of us living around the harbor. And all the other locations that have to deal with the pointless joy flights. 2 years of zero flights made us all realise how f'ing stupid they are.

You want to see the harbor do the bridge walk, does the exact same thing for people, employers, staff and the economy and it is far a better experience with zero noise pollution. And a bit of exercise to boot.

GA is dying and none of you can actually grasp that your all the cause of it.

Regards,