Flight Training

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Chippy
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Flight Training

Postby Chippy » Wed Jan 17 2024, 07:00

Hi there all,

I am at the very start of my aviation career and have been self studying the CPL(H) theory exams, currently 5/7 through.

I have only done a couple of trial flights as I want to focus on getting most/all of the theory done before I fly. But as I approach the end of my theory I am now looking at possible schools to fly with.

My main question is: is it common for one to obtain their PPL first then fly the rest of the hours needed for a CPL without an instructor (at a lower rate)? Or is it better off just going straight for the CPL first. I only ask this as I was advised to take this route by someone, but just wanted to get some more opinions on the matter.

Also, I am located in Sunshine Coast, QLD, so I’d love to hear if anyone had any flight school recommendations, or just any advice in general for someone in my position.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Flight Training

Postby Wannabe60Driver » Fri Jan 19 2024, 02:33

Short answer is no.

Slightly longer answer is that the reason FW schools usually do it that way is because they do 150-200 hours for a CPL versus 105. It’s less hassle for them to send you out on the big block of solo nav flying if you have a PPL.

Most rotary schools don’t ever even mention a PPL because the amount of lessons they have to cover makes 105 hours tight. There simply isn’t time to go punch holes in the sky.

Phil at Helitec is a good option on the sunny coast if you’re using student funding. Graham at Blue Tongue if not.
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Re: Flight Training

Postby Gasket18 » Fri Jan 19 2024, 03:22

Hi mate enjoy the experience. I sent you a pm
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Re: Flight Training

Postby Biggles » Fri Jan 19 2024, 08:32

Wannabe

I thought most schools now get you to do a PPL flight test once a student reaches the necessary hours on their CPL journey.

If my memory serves me right, something to do with a class 1 medical running out but the class 2 medical still current. A CPL can't fly as a PPL on a Class 2 if they haven't done a PPL flight test. CASA legislation. Happy to be corrected.

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Re: Flight Training

Postby av8r » Fri Jan 19 2024, 10:13

A CPL comes with all the privileges of a PPL. Did you mean a CPL student can’t fly on a Class 2 without a PPL?
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Re: Flight Training

Postby Biggles » Fri Jan 19 2024, 12:20

This from Capt Hollywood on 'Slapper back in 2009 - is the second paragraph info still correct??


Re: Class 1 Vs Class 2 CASA Medical
Postby Capt Hollywood » Tue Jan 27 2009, 12:31

Hi Ron,

To exercise the privileges of a CPL(H) you will need a Class 1 medical, can't say I've ever heard of anyone going down the path you're describing, if they want a CPL they usually do the Class 1 medical.

People often think you can operate with a CPL on a Class 2 medical providing you are conducting private operations. You are required to hold a medical that is relevant to the class of licence you hold, NOT the type of operation you are conducting. If you have a CPL and want to use your Class 2 you have to get a PPL issued to you. Sounds crazy (because it is) but that's the way it goes....

Cheers.

CH.
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Re: Flight Training

Postby Friendly Black Dog » Fri Jan 19 2024, 19:45

Short answer, no it’s not correct.

You can work as a CPL with a class 2 you just can’t carry passengers.

This will preclude you from most 133 OPS but 138 is more flexibile (think task specialists rather than AWK PAX).

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