NT R44 Cover-Up?

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NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby choppermech1986 » Wed Oct 19 2022, 22:55

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-19/ ... /101550994

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this on BS, there are 3 or 4 associated articles that are all pretty explosive. It sounds like multiple parties involved in destroying evidence, lying on statutory declarations, pressuring witnesses etc etc.

In typical territory fashion, the full unabridged story would make for very interesting reading and I get the feeling that a few heads will roll from this when it all comes out in the wash.

Hopefully the truth can be revealed and anyone trying to pervert the course of justice spends plenty of time in prison.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Iron_beagle » Thu Oct 20 2022, 02:38

Couldn't agree more.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby helmet spider » Thu Oct 20 2022, 05:57

https://fb.watch/ggoEK6QyqW/
You only need to read the comments in the link to get the general feel of what people think about this in the NT
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Wannabe60Driver » Thu Oct 20 2022, 08:32

choppermech1986 wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-19/nt-chris-willow-helicopter-crash-pilot-banned-contact/101550994

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this on BS, there are 3 or 4 associated articles that are all pretty explosive. It sounds like multiple parties involved in destroying evidence, lying on statutory declarations, pressuring witnesses etc etc.

In typical territory fashion, the full unabridged story would make for very interesting reading and I get the feeling that a few heads will roll from this when it all comes out in the wash.

Hopefully the truth can be revealed and anyone trying to pervert the course of justice spends plenty of time in prison.


Probably best to leave the commentary to the FB crowd as I reckon this little can of worms is best left to alone based on what the Crown Prosecutor has stated:

"We're not saying Mr Burbdige is the main player, or indeed a central player, but he is part of an overall matrix of individuals who have come together and done things to obfuscate or impede a proper investigation into the circumstances of that fatality."
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Wannabe60Driver » Thu Oct 20 2022, 08:33

Wannabe60Driver wrote:
choppermech1986 wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-19/nt-chris-willow-helicopter-crash-pilot-banned-contact/101550994

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this on BS, there are 3 or 4 associated articles that are all pretty explosive. It sounds like multiple parties involved in destroying evidence, lying on statutory declarations, pressuring witnesses etc etc.

In typical territory fashion, the full unabridged story would make for very interesting reading and I get the feeling that a few heads will roll from this when it all comes out in the wash.

Hopefully the truth can be revealed and anyone trying to pervert the course of justice spends plenty of time in prison.


I reckon commentary on this little can of worms is best left to the FB crowd given what the Crown Prosecutor has stated:

"We're not saying Mr Burbdige is the main player, or indeed a central player, but he is part of an overall matrix of individuals who have come together and done things to obfuscate or impede a proper investigation into the circumstances of that fatality."
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby godfather007 » Fri Oct 21 2022, 10:16

Very sad situation for all involved.
I have met Matt and Mick whilst on the job, I don’t know them personally, but I’m sure this is a very sensitive situation for all involved particularly as they are all mates that lost another.
Good advice from 60 driver!
Let the courts sort it out.
As for the cop... pop;
There is always an option.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Helinaish » Tue Oct 25 2022, 22:08

godfather007 wrote:Very sad situation for all involved.
I have met Matt and Mick whilst on the job, I don’t know them personally, but I’m sure this is a very sensitive situation for all involved particularly as they are all mates that lost another.
Good advice from 60 driver!
Let the courts sort it out.
As for the cop... pop;


“He has been charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, destruction of evidence, providing a false statement in a statutory declaration, and attempt to pervert the course of justice” (ABC News)

Mates looking out for mates… is that what you’re trying to say?!
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Wannabe60Driver » Tue Oct 25 2022, 23:17

Three simultaneous investigations currently underway between CASA, ATSB, and NT Police.

Interesting that NT Police now want to speak to anyone that’s ever been in VH-IDW.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-24/ ... /101571668
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby choppermech1986 » Wed Oct 26 2022, 02:25

pop;

It's just a guess but I think CASA would like to make an example and be seen to be tough in the fallout of this. I get the feeling that in the course of their investigation into this accident, and especially if they're trying to piece together the history of the aircraft, they will be able to collect enough evidence to rescind a few pilots licences. Excuse my cynicism but I'll bet good money that the video footage on some tourists phones tallies up to a lot more than ever went on the MR.

They may not be able to get to the bottom of what happened that day, but my guess is they will really try to punish those who they can prove were doing the wrong thing, long before the accident.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Wannabe60Driver » Mon Nov 28 2022, 08:22

Pinnacle wrote:doesn't look good for MW

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... b1a3c0adc0


When the case is this high profile, you can be fairly sure the prosecutor has been sharp enough to dot their ‘i’s and cross their ‘t’s before charging anyone with regularly disconnecting the Hobbs meters across the fleet. pop;
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby CyclicH145 » Mon Nov 28 2022, 08:24

NT has been leading aviation prosecutions of late and with the maximum WHS manslaughter offence penalty being LIFE imprisonment, I’d say it’ll be an interesting hearing to say the least.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Biggles » Mon Nov 28 2022, 08:32

Media reports had 4 guys arriving at the crash site prior to emergency services.

Seems there's more to this than disconnecting the hobbs
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby CyclicH145 » Mon Nov 28 2022, 08:47

Going to be an interesting hearing to say the least with the no of people involved.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby Wannabe60Driver » Mon Nov 28 2022, 09:48

Biggles wrote:Media reports had 4 guys arriving at the crash site prior to emergency services.

Seems there's more to this than disconnecting the hobbs


The Hobbs disconnection evidence was more an example of the extra time and effort the prosecution have gone to with these latest charges.

Proving who the four people were that were in the machine that arrived shortly before evidence started evaporating would’ve been an easy one.
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby wotyaup2 » Tue Nov 29 2022, 00:11

CyclicH145 wrote:https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8J3mGVo/


It’s interesting to see someone that’s normally so vocally opinionated and mouthy so so quiet. pop;
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby CyclicH145 » Tue Nov 29 2022, 01:18

wotyaup2 wrote:
CyclicH145 wrote:https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8J3mGVo/


It’s interesting to see someone that’s normally so vocally opinionated and mouthy so so quiet. pop;


Who’s that?
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby wotyaup2 » Tue Nov 29 2022, 03:06

CyclicH145 wrote:
wotyaup2 wrote:
CyclicH145 wrote:https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8J3mGVo/


It’s interesting to see someone that’s normally so vocally opinionated and mouthy so so quiet. pop;


Who’s that?


Mr M W, at the airport when a reporter closed in on him :lol:
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Re: NT R44 Cover-Up?

Postby CyclicH145 » Tue Nov 29 2022, 08:49

wotyaup2 wrote:
CyclicH145 wrote:
wotyaup2 wrote:
It’s interesting to see someone that’s normally so vocally opinionated and mouthy so so quiet. pop;


Who’s that?


Mr M W, at the airport when a reporter closed in on him :lol:


Yup, after todays update I’d say he’ll be trying to keep a low profile

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