Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Looking for some info on converting to or from an Aussie Flight Crew License?
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Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby ++TopDogg++ » Fri Jun 28 2013, 19:27

Has anyone done this conversion lately? Much bulls..t to go through?
Wheres a good place in oz to do mountain awareness to meet the nz criteria?
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby Waka topatopa » Mon Jul 1 2013, 05:11

Info here mate..

http://www.caa.govt.nz/pilots/TTMRA_Licence_Issue.pdf


Bit of a rigmarole by the look of it, exams to do again etc. Much easier to convert the other way Kiwi to Aus. Out of curiosity why do you want the Kiwi license? I would've thought the opportunities/pay etc would be better over your side of the Tasman?

If you need the mountain experience id recommend coming and doing it in NZ......just leave our sheep alone though :lol:
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby helicopspeeder » Mon Jul 1 2013, 07:07

I would have thought your sheep would be getting lonely by now, surely the two or three pilots left in NZ can't give all 470 million of them the attention they were used to before you exported all their lovers to Aus. :shock: :D :lol:
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby AgRattler » Mon Jul 1 2013, 08:27

There are some tidy sheep in Oz as well.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby ++TopDogg++ » Mon Jul 1 2013, 08:51

Cheers Waka, just had a read, does not seem too bad...I read that there are no exams to be sat ? where did you read that? , just that oz pilots had to transition to nz cars obviously, and a flight proficiency check. Im not sure if i can do mountain flying in nz to make the conversion or if i has to be done here...., will have to chase it up.
P.S NZ is home for me, I don't like Ozzie sheep.......

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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby K78 » Mon Jul 1 2013, 12:57

Did this a couple of years ago its straight forward just need to have the mountain flying, enough hours for the sling, pay massive amounts of money for a medical, do a fit and proper persons check. The worst was I had to do an English proficiency but you can do that in Australia if haven't got one. There is a couple of other minor things like police clearances and the like which can be time consuming to get done but that's about it. No exams, don't even need a medical immediately. Then you are fully certified to fly overloaded machines without recording all the hours and get payed stuff all. :wink:
But worth it in the end.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby K78 » Mon Jul 1 2013, 12:59

Mountain flying can be undertaken in either NZ or OZ. I would recommend doing it in NZ if you are looking for work there.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby ++TopDogg++ » Mon Jul 1 2013, 19:47

Cheers K78
Thats what i wanted to hear!
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby andronicus » Mon Jul 1 2013, 20:58

Turn it up K78!!!!
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby Jabberwocky » Mon Aug 22 2016, 09:15

Has anyone done this recently? Does the AFP check cover both the criminal and traffic history checks? And how do you provide proof for the services address if you are not over there yet?

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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby Kiwieng » Mon Aug 22 2016, 22:04

The AFP check covers police and traffic yes.
Refer to the TTMRA which clarifies a few NZ/Oz bits and pieces.
I returned after 8 years in Oz and had to do a complete new medical despite having a recent current grade one in Oz.
The medical all up worked out at about $680NZ.
I also had to do a law exam, Provide an Australian federal police and NZ police criminal conviction history check - I'd get on to that asap as it can take anything up to 6 weeks. You will need the fit and proper person application which needs a referee and somebody you've known for a long time to sign (Not sure if they have to be NZ based or not)
The English proficiency check has to be done if you haven't got one.
If you are going through a flying school then ask if you can use that address until you are settled in.

One thing during this process - I found CAA very easy to deal with which was a pleasant surprise.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby Jabberwocky » Tue Aug 23 2016, 00:15

Thanks for the info, exactly what I was after :)

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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby KOALA » Sat Sep 10 2016, 11:06

All the information listed has been helpful, so thanks for all that posted so far.

Does anyone have any advice for Helicopter flight schools in NZ to undertake the Mountain flying / help with the conversion? Also, is there a requirement to undertake annual flight tests etc to maintain the NZ CPL(H) if you aren't flying there or will it just be a flight test with an employer?

Has anyone done this in the last 12-18 months and have any recommendations for flight schools and or individual instructors to ask for(or more importantly not to) ?

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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby Kiwieng » Sat Sep 10 2016, 22:41

I did mine along with my C cat in May at Wanaka Helicopters.
The mountain flying is the best you'll find in this part of the world, You can be landing at 6000ft within 0.3 and 8000ft within 0.4 of the airport.
I flew with Simon Spencer Bower who I found to be a great guy to fly with, He will taylor your training to enable you to get the biggest bang for your buck.
Wanaka Helis are the only training outfit south of Christchurch I think, They run a 500, AS350, Cabri, R44 and R22s.
I found the guys there really helpful and to be a great team.

Good luck with it all.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby KOALA » Sun Sep 11 2016, 10:46

Hey Kiwieng,

Awesome thanks for the info. I will have a look at them.

Was it as easier as having the hours, doing the mountain / sling and the completing the paperwork?
Did you have to do any exams or complete anything extra?

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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby garly1 » Sun Sep 11 2016, 22:35

There is also Gaven Burgess down in Te Anau, another great instructor with lots of mountains on the door step!
http://www.teanauhelicopters.com/
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby Kiwieng » Mon Sep 12 2016, 06:21

Marshy84 wrote:Hey Kiwieng,

Awesome thanks for the info. I will have a look at them.

Was it as easier as having the hours, doing the mountain / sling and the completing the paperwork?
Did you have to do any exams or complete anything extra?

Thanks


Refer to my post further up the page.
I had to do a law exam and a full medical despite having a current Australian class one
Fit and proper person which included criminal conviction history checks.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby KOALA » Mon Sep 12 2016, 16:37

Thanks garly1 I will have a look at him as well... Your'e not him are you :lol:

No worries Kiwieng...had noticed that, thought it was someone else tho.

Thanks for the help people :D
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby garly1 » Tue Sep 13 2016, 22:44

:D nah mate not him but used I used him for my BFR last year.
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Re: Oz CPLH to Nz CPLH

Postby wotyaup2 » Wed Aug 30 2017, 06:55

++TopDogg++ wrote:Has anyone done this conversion lately? Much bulls..t to go through?
Wheres a good place in oz to do mountain awareness to meet the nz criteria?
Cheers
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Fill out the TTMRA paperwork, pay the fee to the CAA, and as long as you have a sling endorsement and 10 mountain time (with the 5 hours ground theory) all you will need to do on arrival is a BFR flight. Sling and mountain are the only two extra syllabus requirements that need to be acquired, well them and a Min of 150hrs TT for NZ cpl h.

If you currently do not have a Sling rating, then getting it in NZ could possibly be cheeper, as you are not required to do 5 hrs of LL (dual) + the LL flight test before a sling rating can be done.

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