harold wrote:I'd say the whole argument is pretty pointless really! For most of us, we would be lucky to do 1 hour a year ground running any machine so the argument is pretty superfluous really. As for an audit, if CASA were to quivvel over a .2 entry, say you brought it up to the hover....end of argument! I agree with the other posters who state if the rotors are engaged, then you as PIC are solely responsible for the machine and its operation....I would happily log the time but as I said, the amount of time we're talking about here is so inconsequential at days end.
Well that may be true if you are a point A to B and shut down type pilot, but what about Ag, or many other jobs where you are sitting running on the ground, waiting on pax to do their thing, ( e.g soil sampling etc), that can add up to quite a difference between air and running time at the end of the day. e.g last year I did 1100 hours run time charged to the customer but only 800 odd air time, so it adds up over the year in some cases, but I only logged the 800 odd.
I only log air time because thats the rules in NZ, hard to prove at an audit where the extra few hundred hours came from IF the CAA auditor compares the aircraft tec log to your log book and you have been logging run time!
But in Canada it can depend who you work for, some log air some log run time, but most seem to log air time. So I guess it depends what country and company you are in, you follow the rules to suit.
harold wrote:The suggestions about checking hours (ZK-BIC) for our friends across the pond is a sound proposition to any prospective employer. Make a few enquiries; might save some grief down the track! I know a pilot who had 500 extra hours he obtained whilst operating as a groundee for an AG operator - his view was "I signed the MR each day so I can log the hours"! Turned out the real figure he could rightfully log was 3! Amazingly, next day his logbook was stolen from his car - Surprise! Surprise!
Hmmm.... I think those pens work all around the world don't they?? So I don't see the need to sling the sh1t in one direction!