Fire Contract Rate

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Fire Contract Rate

Postby blades » Wed Oct 31 2012, 09:22

Just wondering what the going rate is for contract pilots for this years fire season?
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Twistgrip » Wed Oct 31 2012, 10:20

It really depends on your experience and Acft types. Anywhere from $600-$1000 or more per day plus per diems.
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby havick » Wed Oct 31 2012, 12:35

As twistgrip mentioned pay rate will vary, but here's some examples I've seen this year so far;

- Single engine (air attack); varies from $380 /day at the lower end to about $550 /day + per diems
- Single engine (medium bombing); lowest $500 /day + hourly flying rate + per diems to $900 /day + hourly flying rate + per diems
- multi-engine (medium bombing); lowest $600 / day + hourly flying rate + per diems to $1100 / day + hourly flying rate + per diems or $1200 flat rate / day + per diems

I can't speak for heavies as I don't know.

I guess it will come down to what you can negotiate based on how deep the company's pockets are / your experience / whether the machine is on full time contract or call when needed.

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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby hand in pants » Thu Nov 1 2012, 08:26

What's a per diem??
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby BennyG » Thu Nov 1 2012, 08:36

hand in pants wrote:What's a per diem??


s#!t I'm glad you asked, I thought it was just me!!
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby havick » Thu Nov 1 2012, 08:39

duty travel allowance, meals etc etc.... Basically it's a nominal figure that a company pays per day on top of your wages to cover meals and incidentals.

Often the tasking agency eg. DSE (victoria) covers meals etc so you won't get a duty travel allowance paid in that instance (depends on the company).
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Simplex » Sat Nov 3 2012, 05:11

and as from last month make sure you get your extra 9% superannuation on top of that as well.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/conte ... &page=3&H3
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Simplex » Sat Nov 3 2012, 05:55

my mistake.. should read last year.

from ATO website.
If you pay your contractors under a contract that is wholly or principally for labour, you have to pay super contributions for them. This is even if the contractor quotes an Australian business number (ABN). These contractors are considered your employees for Superannuation guarantee purposes.

using the decision tool would make it hard for helicopter companies to claim that the pilot was a contractor not entitled to super.

http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/conten ... 095062.htm
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Heliduck » Sun Jan 4 2015, 08:47

Bumping this thread to the top, with the downturn in the resource sector are we in a race to the bottom or are the contract rates holding up?
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby nzflyer » Mon Jan 5 2015, 02:09

Did anyone here of a Bell 412 doing a beat up down a local street a little while ago and agency getting wind of it and telling operator never to let this pilot in region again??? Might be a 412 gig for someone ??
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Firefish » Tue Jan 6 2015, 02:24

nzflyer wrote:Did anyone here of a Bell 412 doing a beat up down a local street a little while ago and agency getting wind of it and telling operator never to let this pilot in region again??? Might be a 412 gig for someone ??

No, which state?
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby 540DEGREE TorqueTurn » Tue Jan 6 2015, 03:12

I hope your reading this webby about the pay
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Hello Pilots » Tue Jan 6 2015, 05:31

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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby hand in pants » Tue Jan 6 2015, 23:59

If someone isn't paying the rate you think you deserve, don't fly the machine, go elsewhere.
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Mag seal » Wed Jan 7 2015, 00:22

I agree with HIP. However there is always some desperate pilot who will work for virtually nothing to get an endorsement or experience and some crappy operators use this to their advantage. They get paid very well to provide the machines and are just robbing you by paying less than the going rate.
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Re: Fire Contract Rate

Postby Cheers Kent » Wed Jan 7 2015, 02:18

So you're saying it's a relationship between supply and demand?
What is this strange concept you are taking about?

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