Bladeslapper

Ray, that’s the crux of my argument against the GIII thing.

As Bedouin Prince says “...where I work the opening rate is $55000, plus holidays. More Experience = more money.”
At least it’s a living wage, and with experience and the subsequent “more money” people who want too, can make a living out of instructing. A good living if you want to go all the way to IFR, and/or CFI.
My prediction is the GIII will come in, and in a short while, we will be talking about the “old days”, when "there were experienced instructors in the industry”.

SP

Yeah the thing is, sure you can make more money in other areas, and I made more out bush, there is not really any other area where you know that you will be working 9 to 5 (ish) without someone coming up to you and saying get your swag you're off to the desert for three weeks. I have my nice two days off per week, I'm home for the family every night, I do tons of flying, and interesting flying at that. For me to stay home for a couple of years so my kids can actually know who I am, whist still doing flying that I know will further my career, I figure it's worth it.

skypig wrote:My prediction is the GIII will come in, and in a short while, we will be talking about the “old days”, when "there were experienced instructors in the industry”.

Agreed. Take a look at NZ and tell me that the low pay and super low hour instructors are a good thing. I struggle to see positives aside from the work for low hour pilots...but at what cost? The only winner is the employer.

Bedouin Prince wrote:Yeah the thing is, sure you can make more money in other areas, and I made more out bush, there is not really any other area where you know that you will be working 9 to 5 (ish) without someone coming up to you and saying get your swag you're off to the desert for three weeks. I have my nice two days off per week, I'm home for the family every night, I do tons of flying, and interesting flying at that. For me to stay home for a couple of years so my kids can actually know who I am, whist still doing flying that I know will further my career, I figure it's worth it.

Horses for courses. I'm home every night with the wife, have a huge variation of work from dope on the rope, to power line
work/construction, to fire fighting etc. All for a very good living and not a circuit to be had. One isn't necessarily better than the other, it's what ever floats your boat.

MY opinion.

oneliner

Yep Oneliner, your absolutely right, it's what ever floats your boat, and what you enjoy doing.

And I'm right with you and Skypig on the GIII. I fail to see how it can benefit anyone other than the employer, and the lucky dog who will be racking in the cash as all these low timers come to them chasing their GIII directly after CPL training. It's just another way to glut the low time market, dragging down pay and conditions.