sid snot wrote:wheels
Do the aviation industry a favour and stick to plumbing...its more suited to your attitude.
I am taking this constructive critisism all on board but this is a bit harsh!!
HIP I fully understand where you are coming from and 100% agree
As the subject said "Wages - Operators have your say"
I'm an operator of a business my tool to pay for my desired job to come.
HIP and a few who are reading and staying on the side not commenting are looking from a business prospective
HIP stated that he wanted to teach them the ins and out of the business so when they are out there they can run everything to do with that operation!!!
this costs money to train people!!
a 105 hour pilot has a shiney ticket to learn
When it is not so shiny they will be making the good dollars
Generally this takes about 5 years for the guys I have met in the industry with both fixed and spinners
(this is to make the real good dollars or the job you really want)
Stick with me for 5 years cleaning toilets WOW now that would be an experence!!
this has been completely blown out of the water
When you read over the complete forum and take everything from an operators view and run a sucessful business of any kind for more than five years (making money and doing it to the law) come back with a big smile and comment positivly
I completly understand where the unpaid and underpaid are coming from! Been there!
Low time guys if you talk to operators and pilots you will find out who is paying and who is not and
Who is doing the right by there employees and who is not!
I would rather work for under award (for pilots) for somone who is going to give me a go.
Who is going to teach me there business, Answering phones, Quoting , Planning, and flying
so I could run the office / opperationon my own.
Build hours, get jobs, plan jobs.
without this the operators will ask??
what is the good of a pilot that can only fly???
What value is he or she to my business???
When I employ people there are two type of people I employ.
1 job spacific! Short term to do one job.
Plenty of pilots out there doing this!!
2 if you want full time with me as a trade employer you will either be an apprentice where your final year you will learn all the office side so I can go and set up another operation incresing my workload put in for bigger jobs ect. and be willing to do everthing from dealing with the customer to answering the phone quoting for the company ect.
This is learnt in your own time not mine if you are trade qualified.
Apprentice I will teach because they have put in the hard yards for me!!
If you cannot do this, the whole job you are just another labourer!!
The big bucks and long term big bucks go to the guy's that don't just look at the pay in there pockets but the whole company!
If the company continues to make the money they continue to pay well train more and expand.
Look after your employees!!! your long term ones.
I have found the guy's that get paid what they deserve do what they need.
If they deserve above award they shoud get it.
These guys hang around!!
If they don't deserve it they should get the "AWARD" for the job they are performing.
they are there and staying but not loyal.
And if they deserve less they are the first to be shown the gate.
that is life !
Now Give me those Pilot faces! you know the ones! you just did a low level flight or what ever gives you the buzz!
Now everybody breath Remain calm relax
Now back to making the folding things!!
that was one long brew looks like I work threw lunch again. Oh I can do that legally.