This is a video of a dust landing (supposed to be a landing).
The final approach was not ideal so it ended in a go around.
It shows how fast you can have 0 reference to the ground in a brown out.
http://vimeo.com/69325143
Brown out
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Re: Brown out
Certainly didn't take long to arrive at zero vis........................
Hand in Pants, I'm thinking, my god, that IS huge!!!!!!!!
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Re: Brown out
Is there a plan b in this situation?
Mickjoebill
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Re: Brown out
Stick your head out the door...
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Re: Brown out
mickjoiebill wrote:Is there a plan b in this situation?
Mickjoebill
Avoid it in the first place. Approach a bit faster, keep the "doughnut" of downwash behind you & touchdown just as it catches up with you. By the time everything goes brown you're already on the ground. This method has been successfully employed by mustering pilots for a very long time, followed by brushing a lot of dust off the instrument panel!
"Plan twice...Fly once"
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Re: Brown out
The video was taken during a training mission so there was no real need to land at this spot.
The next approach was to an area 20m to the right and although there was a brown out too, it was good to handle.
But you can always try it again on the same landing spot. The first approach can be enough to blow away most of the dust and once the wind blowed the "cloud" away you can land nicely!
Putting the head out would certainly help but not possible on this one.
Pictures are taken by a Swedish Unit we trained with and order is from bottom to top.
The next approach was to an area 20m to the right and although there was a brown out too, it was good to handle.
But you can always try it again on the same landing spot. The first approach can be enough to blow away most of the dust and once the wind blowed the "cloud" away you can land nicely!
Putting the head out would certainly help but not possible on this one.
Pictures are taken by a Swedish Unit we trained with and order is from bottom to top.
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Re: Brown out
Heliduck wrote:mickjoiebill wrote:Is there a plan b in this situation?
Mickjoebill
Avoid it in the first place. Approach a bit faster, keep the "doughnut" of downwash behind you & touchdown just as it catches up with you. By the time everything goes brown you're already on the ground. This method has been successfully employed by mustering pilots for a very long time, followed by brushing a lot of dust off the instrument panel!
This is a good option in my opinion. When I was a junior in the NT my Chief pilot at the time said that sometimes you can arrive in a high hover (power excepted) and hold it while the downwash blows the dust around under you until it has cleared enough to make a landing. Used this in the past however these days I just do what the Heliduck described.
Top video. Thanks for posting it. Great object lesson for everyone.
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