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Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Fri Oct 10 2014, 13:49
by Surprise
Gday

Under the current regulations, does anyone know how to get a type rating from overseas put onto a CASA License?

From my research, I believe you need to fill out form 209 and submit this form together with all supporting documentation to CASA along with a fee of $130.

However a search for form 209 leads me to believe this form no longer exists, and I am guessing the procedure may have changed under Part 61, and can't find anything further on the matter (or maybe just haven't looked in the right places)

Anyone have any ideas?

Thank you

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Fri Oct 10 2014, 16:31
by oei
Form 61-4CT on the casa website

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Sat Oct 11 2014, 00:27
by Surprise
Thank you

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Tue Jun 5 2018, 21:58
by ag-pilot
Hi all,

I'm just wondering if anyone has done this recently?

I have a current part 61 license and needing clarification on the process to be able to fly an aircraft type I have on my overseas license in Australia? I've had a few mixed answers so thought I'd see if anyone has a definitive answer.

Cheers

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Tue Jun 5 2018, 22:29
by Evil Twin
Get on the phone to clarc, I have done this recently but, it was for new ratings done in the sim overseas. When I was going through it the guys at clarc were very helpful and pushed the paperwork through quickly as soon as they had everything they needed. They will need to see proof of training and copies of logbook pages etc. It's all listed on the form. Couple that with a phone call and Roberts your mothers brother.

ET

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Tue Jun 5 2018, 23:01
by Fill-level
Download form 61-4CT from the CASA website.

In Short.... You need to give Clarc a certified copy of your overseas licence , you will need to fill out a form from your overseas CAA , your overseas CAA will send a verified copy of your licence to CASA , they will then process your type rating , reprint your licence ....You will need a flight review on that Type ...

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 00:01
by ag-pilot
Thanks for the replies,

I have called clarc (prior to these posts) and I had one person there tell me I didn't need to fill out that form as I already hold a SEH and didn't need to do anymore until my HFR was due, but then they transferred me to someone else who said I needed to do a HFR in that type before I could fly it in Australia? Which has left me a bit confused.

As I mentioned to them when I originally changed my license to the part 61 I am current to fly any types that where on my previous license without needing to do the HFR on each specific aircraft type?

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 00:29
by Fill-level
Ok , I assumed it was a type rating...

If you have a part 61 licence , with a SEH on it, with a current HFR, and lets say you have been flying a R66 in the USA and now you want to fly that R66 in Australia on your CASA Licence .

You will require a flight review on the R66 for the first time in Australia ...

Hope that helps...

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 01:23
by ag-pilot
Thanks for confirming that Fill-level

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 02:00
by havick
What aircraft type?

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 02:15
by ag-pilot
AS350

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 04:02
by Fill-level
Without knowing all your information......I assume you have a turbine on your part 61 already , if not then you will also be up for a Gas Turbine Endorsement as well.

The Flight school will advise this when doing your flight review

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 05:13
by ag-pilot
Correct fill-level,

The part I am getting mixed messages on is that the hfr is done to cover all aircraft types that I'm currently allowed to fly (with exception to the Robinson family) I presume casa has a list on file?

But for a new type I'm legal to fly overseas I need to complete a hfr before it's due, on that type so as it can be added to the list?

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 06:04
by Fill-level
Although it’s classed single engine class , they do add the helicopter (AS350) to your flight crew record , you can see your own list on the CASA self service portal

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 06:14
by ag-pilot
Ok, cheers fill-level

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 23:31
by 109ish
Gotta love the simplicity of the current system??? My experience varies a little from fill-level … I have added two new aircraft (similar additional SE turbines) since my part 61 licence was issued. I used a local school and an HFR was processed for each. They do NOT show on my CASA portal. Only SE aircraft prior to my part 61 licence and a new type rated aircraft show on the portal.

Looking at CASA’s website (https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/a ... ss-ratings) it says you just need to have the 61.385 -general competency requirement covered and that does NOT have to be via a 141 school. So, for an additional aircraft in a class - if you were trained overseas to requirements listed in 61.385 and you have a valid CASA issued class rating covering that aircraft, with a GTE and a valid HFR for that class (which could be on any SEH) – then can fly the squirrel. The catch is if you had to prove you had the training to the 61.385 requirements then the easiest way to do that is with an HFR on that aircraft – so I did that.

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Wed Jun 6 2018, 23:53
by hand in pants
109ish, that's pretty much how I see it. Thing is the proof you need is just the paperwork from wherever you did the training and if you thought about it, a note and signature in your logbook from the place you did the training. I still don't see the need for the fr. You have already been trained and approved to fly the helicopter. From my perspective, the fr is a complete waist of time and money.

Re: Putting Type Rating from Overseas on CASA License

Posted: Thu Jun 7 2018, 00:14
by ag-pilot
Cheers guys I will keep talking with clarc and see what the end result will be