NVG trial for firefighting

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NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Twistgrip » Thu Mar 1 2018, 03:41

Just on ABC news. Good to see Casa assessing the technology at last.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-01/night-vision-reveals-firefighting-game-changer/9493968
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby kiwiflyer » Thu Mar 1 2018, 09:05

It is good to see but NVIS on firefighting has been used for some time in the states and also in NZ.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Heliduck » Thu Mar 1 2018, 09:33

kiwiflyer wrote:It is good to see but NVIS on firefighting has been used for some time in the states and also in NZ.



...hence Twistgrips reference to "at last". Australia's nanny state government is always a decade or 2 behind the innovation curve, we have some great innovators but too many brick walls are thrown up in front of them.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Helical » Thu Mar 1 2018, 12:30

Emergency Management Vic are saying that Australia is the first to trial hover refill over water at night, what have they been doing in the US/NZ? Surely not landing to refill.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby havick » Thu Mar 1 2018, 14:03

Helical wrote:Emergency Management Vic are saying that Australia is the first to trial hover refill over water at night, what have they been doing in the US/NZ? Surely not landing to refill.


In the US one company ground fills the tank. Though I know Kern county in CA hover fills with snorkel on nvg’s.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby stratford » Fri Mar 2 2018, 00:06

It's more cutting edge than you think.
The West Coast operators all ground fill, with the exception of one recent operator.
This Australian operation involves filling from surveyed dip sites, using a FLIR and laser equipped 76 as overwatch.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby kiwiflyer » Fri Mar 2 2018, 08:12

The NZ operators use buckets and dip as you would during the day pre and post NVIS.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Heliduck » Fri Mar 2 2018, 11:55

I haven't used NVG's since I was running around in the mangroves with an SLR, but depth perception was a bit of an issue. I hope the new ones are better if they're doing VR work!
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby kiwiflyer » Sat Mar 3 2018, 08:21

Depth perception is still an issue with NVG.
The shorter the line the better within reason but a 200ft line doesn’t work!!!!
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby stratford » Mon Mar 5 2018, 22:17

This is all tank work, no buckets.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Mag seal » Mon Mar 5 2018, 22:34

Belly tank would be the way to go. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with a 100ft line underneath whilst on goggles.

Is the trial single pilot or multi pilot NVIS flying?
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby stratford » Wed Mar 7 2018, 22:56

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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Oogle » Fri Mar 9 2018, 09:48

So, does this mean that all pilots must have an ATPL (multi crew ops)?
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Hello Pilots » Sat Mar 10 2018, 08:48

If you were to believe Karl Stefanovic, its a world first
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby hand in pants » Sat Mar 10 2018, 20:35

stefanovic is an idiot. Wouldn't believe anything that moron said.
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby Capt Slong » Sun Mar 11 2018, 01:02

This is pretty cool.

Is it Just Coulson and Kestrel?
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Re: NVG trial for firefighting

Postby CYHeli » Mon Mar 12 2018, 10:05

At this stage just Coulson and Kestrel. Both have conducted proving flights out of Ballarat.
There is a TMI, Temporary Management Instruction on the CASA website, although the proving flights included an exemption to allow hover fill from natural water source. The TMI originally limited to sitting on the ground fill or a dip tank.
The project also used Coulson’s S76 as an AAS platform with its camera system and linked laser.
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