22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

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22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby jimiemick » Wed Jan 16 2019, 01:22

Noticed the other day that soon the 22 x army Kiowa’s go up for auction.

Just a random thought

I wonder what sort of hours they have....

What would be required to get them CASA registered.

What could you do with them.

What would they be worth.


What would you do with one!?!?!?

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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Eric Hunt » Wed Jan 16 2019, 01:50

What would be required to get them CASA registered.

What could you do with them.


Most likely they could only go under Restricted category. Too many differences from a B206 to get on the civil registry.

You could do private and some airwork type things but only carry "essential crew".
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby jimiemick » Wed Jan 16 2019, 02:12

So maybe like air spraying ?

I’m still rather new to the aviation world of doing things
Specially casa’s way of doing things
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Postby kev kavanna » Sat Feb 23 2019, 08:16

OK just a thought,
Could you register the Kiowa's in Limited category and have fair paying passengers under adventure flights ?
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Longrass » Sat Feb 23 2019, 11:07

If the current pricing is anything to go buy. I’m buying one of those cabs with full internal fit outs with avionics for $2500 and turning it into a cubby house for the kids
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Postby hand in pants » Sun Feb 24 2019, 00:08

I'll give them $19.00 for the lot.

Re-sell them to a scrappy for $25.00 and make a cool $6.00 on the deal.
Hand in Pants, I'm thinking, my god, that IS huge!!!!!!!!
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Twistgrip » Sun Feb 24 2019, 01:12

There’s a big discussion on pee proon and by the sounds of it they aren’t worth a pinch of salt given the mods ,type certification, differences and spares issues.

Far easier to go and by an old trusty civvy 206 plenty on the market cheap and save the hassle and $$.

I can see a few ending up on kids playgrounds :cool_slp:
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby jimiemick » Sun Feb 24 2019, 02:35

I almost want one just to have sitting in a back shed.
One of those features that you go yea, I bought that. Was going to do it up one day (with the full intent that you know you wont)
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby 120dreaming » Tue Mar 5 2019, 19:14

Was supprised how much they went for given they are not straight forward to put on the register. Anyone know what people have planned for them? Cheers
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Friendly Black Dog » Tue Mar 5 2019, 19:42

What sort of dollars are we talking about?
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby 120dreaming » Tue Mar 5 2019, 20:29

Friendly Black Dog wrote:What sort of dollars are we talking about?

200-250plus gst and buyers premium
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Friendly Black Dog » Wed Mar 6 2019, 01:44

I reckon you may be right. Buyer beware
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby jimiemick » Wed Mar 6 2019, 05:38

I am really interested in how bad the ones where that went for below 50k.

Seeing though some went for good $$$
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby 120dreaming » Tue Nov 26 2019, 05:49

does anyone know if any of these have now been registered and flow in OZ yet? cheers
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Evil Twin » Tue Nov 26 2019, 10:15

Yes
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Ala rotante » Wed Nov 27 2019, 05:04

I personally work on two of them.
Decent conditions machines, some parts replaced but both are flying now and as far I heard, the owners are happy.
Both registered “limited” not for charter/scenic but yes for aerial work.
They mount the Allison -20 so good power!
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby bl@ckers » Sat Nov 30 2019, 06:43

Ala rotante wrote:I personally work on two of them.
Decent conditions machines, some parts replaced but both are flying now and as far I heard, the owners are happy.
Both registered “limited” not for charter/scenic but yes for aerial work.
They mount the Allison -20 so good power!



I am aware of someone who owns two, I have flown one. Great helicopter!

But just to clarify, “limited” is very limited. They are warbirds which are essentially only for adventure flights or private use. No aerial work allowed.

Also, if you plan on flying them, you must be a member of the Australian Warbirds Association as they are administered externally to CASA (although you obviously still need a CASA licence).

Not sure if anyone else is going down the path of creating a restricted type certificate. A little difficult at present as Bell doesn’t want anything to do with them and the army isn’t releasing design documents (so I’ve been told).
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Re: 22 x Army Kiowa’s on GraysOnline

Postby Ala rotante » Sun Dec 1 2019, 04:37

bl@ckers wrote:[


I am aware of someone who owns two, I have flown one. Great helicopter!

But just to clarify, “limited” is very limited. They are warbirds which are essentially only for adventure flights or private use. No aerial work allowed.

Also, if you plan on flying them, you must be a member of the Australian Warbirds Association as they are administered externally to CASA (although you obviously still need a CASA licence).

Not sure if anyone else is going down the path of creating a restricted type certificate. A little difficult at present as Bell doesn’t want anything to do with them and the army isn’t releasing design documents (so I’ve been told).


Hi bl@ckers,
Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t know that was an association.
As I wrote, I only worked on them and I was surprised about their good condition.
Talking to the client I heard they were looking for some aerial work.
Btw the clear sticker in the cockpit said “ you are flying this aircraft at your own risk”....

I think the main reason for their restrictions is because army doesn’t supply logbook history so we have no idea what they done with them....

Cheers!

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