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Instructor rating theory

Postby tail wind » Sun Dec 30 2018, 09:20

Gidday All,

I’m looking at getting my instructor rating in the new year, but wanting to knock the theory over before I get stuck into it. Does anyone have any information/advice on which theory books are worth studying?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Instructor rating theory

Postby RotorBez » Sun Dec 30 2018, 10:50

tail wind wrote:Gidday All,

I’m looking at getting my instructor rating in the new year, but wanting to knock the theory over before I get stuck into it. Does anyone have any information/advice on which theory books are worth studying?

Thanks in advance

TW


Not sure where you are based but then again i'm not sure it makes that much difference. I have provided some content assuming you are looking at doing your CASA *(Australia) Grade III. If so then you would do well to start reading through;

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policie ... 083-9A.pdf

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policie ... 8083-4.pdf

Both of the above are FAA books but are pretty good publications if honest. You also need to start going through;

https://www.casa.gov.au/files/fimhpdf

Where are you doing your Instructor rating? What options have you looked at re training locations?

All the best with it.

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Re: Instructor rating theory

Postby Helicoil » Sun Dec 30 2018, 21:19

The last time I checked with CASA, self-study then exam was not an option - you had to attend a PIRC course prior to sitting the exam. Hope this helps 8)
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Re: Instructor rating theory

Postby tail wind » Mon Dec 31 2018, 02:59

Thanks for the info Rotor Bez, I’ve started on the FAA instructor book but wasn’t sure if that was sufficient, I’ll keep going with that along with the CASA material. You’re correct, it’s the initial grade 3 I’m going for.

In terms of a school, I will have to relocate regardless so I’m looking into schools that potentially take on a g3 once you have completed your training, but I’m well aware this is never a guarantee.

I’ll have to look into that Helicoil, I was under the impression you could sit the exam whenever, and do a PMI/cert 4 course at a later stage when you begin the actual course, but that could well be wrong. I was trying to get through whatever I could whilst still working in the current job but that may be wishful thinking!
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Re: Instructor rating theory

Postby Helicoil » Mon Dec 31 2018, 08:28

I don't really know if doing the exam first, then course second, is valid, only that a pass in the exam does not constitute a completion of the theory component.
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Re: Instructor rating theory

Postby bl@ckers » Mon Dec 31 2018, 11:18

Helicoil wrote:I don't really know if doing the exam first, then course second, is valid, only that a pass in the exam does not constitute a completion of the theory component.


Curious to see where you are getting your information from? Is this a new requirement?

As far as I am aware, you can sit the PIRC independent of the instructor rating course. I am unaware of anything that says otherwise in Part 61. It is no different to comppleting all CPL theory first and then going to a part 141 school to do the practical.

I did the exam first and was then able to focus solely on the course at a later date. The PIRC is essentially an exam on PMI and the FAA handbook has everything that you need..... although this may have changed recently as most exams appear to have been rewritten?!?
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Re: Instructor rating theory

Postby 109ish » Mon Dec 31 2018, 22:31

You are both correct in a way … but to be specific - 61.1185 Requirements for grant of flight instructor rating;
(4) The applicant must also:
(a) have completed an approved course of training in principles and methods of instruction; or
(b) hold a Certificate IV in Training and Assessment; or
(c) hold a tertiary qualification in teaching.

If you need a PMI course then that means you are not a teacher and don't have a Cert IV. The "course of training in principles and methods of instruction" should cover some or all of the elements of the PIRC test. So it's reasonable to assume you are better off doing the PMI course prior to the PIRC test - but the order is not mandated. That said - go through the references provided previously by RotorBez for PMI and FIR itself.

Additional info on references for the PIRC from CASA's site ...
https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/p ... ation-pirc

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